In a way I do see your point though as a western relative pacifist I hate death and fear death
I'm not serious btw, I feel like I sound like I'm serious when I'm on abt this. I'm against war, but not against change and most of the time that's how change comes
I'm not serious btw, I feel like I sound like I'm serious when I'm on abt this. I'm against war, but not against change and most of the time that's how change comes
That's what's so fucked up though, we live in a world where so much awful stuff is happened that murder can prevent it, even though murder is inherently wrong
That's what's so fucked up though, we live in a world where so much awful stuff is happened that murder can prevent it, even though murder is inherently wrong
I'm not serious btw, I feel like I sound like I'm serious when I'm on abt this. I'm against war, but not against change and most of the time that's how change comes
change doesn't come from war. It comes from something that connects people together in a way that makes them one
the collapse of the Soviet union did not come from war but from a leader who understood the russian people
Ok. But that's 1 instance. Take the Southampton riots, people came together because wanted change, and they way they tried to get it is violent. Not all change needs to be violent, true, but if you want to change something in a court of law that you know will never pass then violence is what ppl turn to
A coward is someone who is not scared of doing but rather scared of changing
I don't believe that. Doing something to kill someone, will change you, and i think when your planning something like that the after math goes through your mind many the times
And it will solidify the shooters backers. Once one person will do something as huge and brand then more will be inspired
It's a cycle. Shooter kill kirk. Someone is inspired and try to kill kirks replacement. Kirks, side has had enough and some commits violence against the shooters bg
It's a cycle. Shooter kill kirk. Someone is inspired and try to kill kirks replacement. Kirks, side has had enough and some commits violence against the shooters bg
If it could be called something I would call it the Ted Kazcinski manifesto effect
yeah. and he wrote a 'manifesto' which then inspired the first trump shooter than the second than the Luigi guy than a few others and probably whoever did this shooting
yeah. and he wrote a 'manifesto' which then inspired the first trump shooter than the second than the Luigi guy than a few others and probably whoever did this shooting
When u say the second do u mean the golf course one?
He was loved by millions as someone who stood for what the constitution was made for: freedom of speech. He was directly debating with someone when he was shot
This isn't something to debate about right now. Lives were lost, a family was torn apart, and it's a very sad and unfortunate situation. Regardless of the politics, an innocent man was murdered through senseless violence.
This isn't something to debate about right now. Lives were lost, a family was torn apart, and it's a very sad and unfortunate situation. Regardless of the politics, an innocent man was murdered through senseless violence.
Did he get shot in the left side of his neck and is ded and they got the wrong suspect, and they are trying to still find the guy, and he was around college age?
all im gonna say is when something happens, 99% of the time there will have been a worse event in history. but that doesn't negate what his family is going through. 2 young children are going to grown up not only without their father, but they'll likely be made fun of because of who their dad is
all im gonna say is when something happens, 99% of the time there will have been a worse event in history. but that doesn't negate what his family is going through. 2 young children are going to grown up not only without their father, but they'll likely be made fun of because of who their dad is
I don't really give a shit, because someone is saying that Palestinian children starving to death and people's homes being stolen deliberately isn't signs of a genocide
Idk maybe that Palestinians have significantly less rights, there's literally a wall separating the Jews from Arabs, Palestinians have to go through checkpoints to even go out of where they are and they can't go to Israel
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DON'T REMIND ME
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MY ROOMMATE SHOWED ME THE UNCENSORED CLOSE UP
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OH FUCK
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FUCK
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It was so bad ðŸ˜
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ðŸ˜
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what was that
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oh lmao
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what
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who is kirk
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MY DOG IS CALLED KIRK
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pls i beg someone explain who charlie kirk is and what happened to him
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he's a political speaker in america
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goes around to colleges to debate uneducated young adults
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and someone thought it would be acceptable to shoot him in the neck because they disagreed with him
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and a lot of people online and irl are praising the shooter
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ppl suck bro
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ik this doesn't help the case about america not being a shooting range ðŸ˜
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what
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thats fucking horrible
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But it's insane that people will justify murder because they don't agree with someone's political party
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like are words not a thing?
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wow
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apparently not
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Not when people are too ignorant to listen
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yuh
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like regardless of who you vote for MURDER IS WRONG
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yup
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yep
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thats fucking crazy and horrible
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Yeah
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like idk what went through that guy mind to shoot him
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Apparently he's still alive but in pretty bad condition
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poor guy
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someone told me he died
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I don't think they've released that yet
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oh i mustve misheard then
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he's in critical condition
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yeah
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its so wild dude
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fuckin trantifa
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i hope he can heal though
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thats so bad
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hopefully
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the suspect is in custody
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ohhh
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wasn't it an old man?
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idk
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i thought they had a video though or can you not see who had the gun in the video
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it was from 200 meters away
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or smth like that
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ohhh
Cosmo the Intern
speak American bruh
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like 180 yards
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shit I'm looking at the new rn
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brb
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idk my measurements :(
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ok gl
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it's alr
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2+2=5
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what
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2+2=5
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1+1=11
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10+10=1000
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lol
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bruh I just saw the vid
Cosmo the Intern
holy crap
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its fucking crazy
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dude it's awful
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the one I saw was from someone like right in the front row
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ohh damn
Cosmo the Intern
I saw the one where the guy in one of the back rows zooms in on him the second he gets shot
Cosmo the Intern
he out his fucking hand on his neck
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oh yeah I saw that
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
it sounds so bad
Cosmo the Intern
he's so lucky that it didn't hit him in a critical spot
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this one's really awful cause it goes longer than the one from the back row
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
im not planning to look at it luckiyl
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OH IT DID
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IT DID.
Cosmo the Intern
jugular?
Cosmo the Intern
no it can't be
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right there in the corroded artery
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shit
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ow
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*carotid
Cosmo the Intern
but what's crazy is that everyone looks to where the shot happened from
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like you can very clearly tell it hit him in a really critical spot
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i don't wanna get into the details
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
i dont have a clue what any of those things you are naming in the neck are but they sound serious
Cosmo the Intern
the one from the front row was fake
Cosmo the Intern
the vid was fake
Cosmo the Intern
and he was shot in the chest
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
still dont know what they are :(
Cosmo the Intern
there's something called google
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huh
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im sorry for not having learnt that yet
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there's witnesses saying they saw blood coming from his neck
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acting like im your age
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as if id know
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ugh
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according to the nyt the old man wasn't actually the shooter
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they got the wrong dude in custody
mal 💙
yeah thats what cnn is saying
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cnn has live updates on their website
Cosmo the Intern
don't listen to cnn
Cosmo the Intern
its not a good news source anymore
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yeah ik
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just the first thing that popped up
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i dont pay attention to news generally
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Someone tell me who the Charlie kirk guy is
Cosmo the Intern
but I watched the short of it. he got shot right under his jaw
mal 💙
blach ^
Cosmo the Intern
he's a conservative influencer and founder of Turning Point USA
Another New Blach
Is he right wing?
Cosmo the Intern
He's commonly known for his public 'meet and greets'
Cosmo the Intern
right leaning, yeah
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Ahh
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hey mookie
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Hi
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hi
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@eb are you for authoritarianism
Explain Bear
No. Only weaklings need someone telling them what to do.
Cosmo the Intern
blach this ain't the post for eb
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Mbmb
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all good
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Also hru
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Yous
mal 💙
tired
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u?
Another New Blach
Not bad
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Same
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I prolly should gtb soon
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But idk if I wanna
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shit
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i think he died
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like 3 sites say so
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Me
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Nah
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Ish
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Ig
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Idk
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Yaya
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I just have very loose attention
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If yk what I mena
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So ye
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U there
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oh my gosh
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i think you're right
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my mom just told me too
Another New Blach
OHH SBIT
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Shit
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Bro I jsut realised u were talking sbt the guy
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Fuck
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Mbmb
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That sad
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Who shot him
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fuck
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idk
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nyt says the president said he died
mal 💙
so does multiple others
mal 💙
like other news sites
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this is so crazy
mal 💙
his poor family holy shit
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I think his kids were like super young too, that's so awful
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the wikipedia article is already past tense :(
mal 💙
yeah they are
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3 and 1 :(
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ðŸ˜
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poor babies
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I knowwww :(
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Apparently his wife and kids were there too
mal 💙
oh shit
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which is really sad but at least they were probably with him when he went
mal 💙
that’s horrendous on so many levels
mal 💙
i hope so
DaRapBoat
Bro how the hell was TRUMP the 1st one to know who died
mal 💙
he prolly wasn’t the first to know but the first to make it public
mal 💙
since he’s kinda influential..
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Plus Trump & Charlie were close
mal 💙
ahuh
DaRapBoat
Damn, that’s fucked up
mal 💙
yup
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it’s awful
Cosmo the Intern
confirmed dead
Cosmo the Intern
holy shit
mal 💙
yep
Cosmo the Intern
he's 31 himself
mal 💙
yeah
Cosmo the Intern
I'm legit in shock
Cosmo the Intern
because just like holy shit
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i know man
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it's so bad
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yeah
Cosmo the Intern
fucking trantifa
Cosmo the Intern
I just started watching Ben Shapiro's livestream
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is he talking about it too?
DaRapBoat
Weren’t they ENEMIES
Cosmo the Intern
yeah
Another New Blach
Back
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What did I miss
Cosmo the Intern
while they had some disagreements, no
Cosmo the Intern
and political violence is political violence. political violence is always wrong
DaRapBoat
BRO HE’S CONFIRMED DEAD
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Ahh
DaRapBoat
Holy shit
Another New Blach
Actually that's sad
DaRapBoat
Wait you might be on to something
Another New Blach
Idk y I said that
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^^^
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Murder is objectively wrong
DaRapBoat
Yeah, I can DEFINITELY think of some examples
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is really what it comes down to
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regardless of what someone's done
DaRapBoat
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unless they're actively like holding a hostage
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straight up killing someone is not okay
Cosmo the Intern
then that's not a political shooting.
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yeah
Another New Blach
Ok
Cosmo the Intern
there's a difference between murder and non-murder deaths
Another New Blach
I've decided I'm not getting involved in this
Cosmo the Intern
murder is brutal, ruthless
DaRapBoat
Bro they’re removing all the videos of him being shot, they’re erasing HISTORY bro
Cosmo the Intern
I saw a few good ones.
Cosmo the Intern
they're still pretty fucked up
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very
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damn
Cosmo the Intern
morally they are brutal
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cosmo is there a fancy science word like hyperphantasia but for like photographic memory
Cosmo the Intern
murders made just made out of pure hate are evil
Cosmo the Intern
I'd assume so
Cosmo the Intern
like they seem dirty and horrid in a way that is hard to explain
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intentionally killing someone is just wrong though ðŸ˜
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No, not even for the right reasons ðŸ˜
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that's why we have a justice system, which is admittedly flawed
Cosmo the Intern
the last freedom fighters that have purposefully killed that deserve that term are the rebels in starwars
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But in MORAL terms, killing someone who did something bad is still bad
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Morality transcends legality
Cosmo the Intern
in some ways yeah
Cosmo the Intern
but morality is an iffy term
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Does it though? Like look at the world, not much murder
Another New Blach
Just
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I'm saying moral principles should not be discerned under the same categorization as legal principles
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a lot of legal principles are BASED on moral principles
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i.e. do crime, get punished
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but man
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I feel like killing anyone is so unnecessary
Cosmo the Intern
I agree
Another New Blach
It is for us. Not for others
Another New Blach
What abt the healthcare ceo shooting?
Cosmo the Intern
however in the modern west, most legal principles have derived from morals from the bible
Another New Blach
That guy thought it was necessary, to stop the CEO from fucking ppl over
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Humanity's problem is that many people still see murder as a solution to problems
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Misclick
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Maybe it'll change things, but killing someone is still a bad thing
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Even if you're killing a bad person
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You could make the argument that it's more beneficial if someone dies
Another New Blach
It's not a solution it's a route
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Which is due to the way our society is organized
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But it's just not a good act
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Or a good way to solve things
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It's a cheap, morally wrong, ILLEGAL thing to do
Another New Blach
Ok, what you shoot the person who organised your society?
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from all sides, killing is bad
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But we still make exceptions
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I'm saying killing someone can be beneficial because society allows it to be
Cosmo the Intern
he shot and killed a man illegally.
Another New Blach
I'm not saying killing isn't bad. I'm saying that it's never not necessary
Cosmo the Intern
not because, but "if"
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good point
Cosmo the Intern
In a way I do see your point though as a western relative pacifist I hate death and fear death
Cosmo the Intern
I'm still in shock tho
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I'm not serious btw, I feel like I sound like I'm serious when I'm on abt this. I'm against war, but not against change and most of the time that's how change comes
Another New Blach
Like, I'm just saying one side of the discussion yk
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That's what's so fucked up though, we live in a world where so much awful stuff is happened that murder can prevent it, even though murder is inherently wrong
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*happening
Another New Blach
True true, but st the same time:
Trolley problem.
Cosmo the Intern
change doesn't come from war. It comes from something that connects people together in a way that makes them one
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That's an excellent counter, I'll give you that
Another New Blach
Would you like 1 guy if it could stop a war?^
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Thank h
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U*
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That really is what it boils down to - You could make a change for the better by actively participating in something very wrong
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Change from people being connected is like 67% war
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Wither is gang v gang or country vs country
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Whither
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Whether
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I think idk
Cosmo the Intern
the collapse of the Soviet union did not come from war but from a leader who understood the russian people
Another New Blach
Is it wrong if it's for the better? You have to go throught the field to open the gate on the otherside
Cosmo the Intern
change is just a way of saying this becomes that
Another New Blach
Ok. But that's 1 instance. Take the Southampton riots, people came together because wanted change, and they way they tried to get it is violent. Not all change needs to be violent, true, but if you want to change something in a court of law that you know will never pass then violence is what ppl turn to
Cosmo the Intern
The reason that people killed Charlie Kirk is because people were scared because he was different. He was the best conservative influencer
Cosmo the Intern
Violence is used to try to prevent change but rather leads to new
Another New Blach
And that's the people who don't want change. If you want to stop a man from telling people how he wants to fix the world, how do you do it peacefully?
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Morally murder is wrong, logically (in certain situations) it's an option to reap some sort of benefit
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^^^
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Like, killing Charlie Kirk isn't going to make a huge dent in the efforts of the right political wing
Cosmo the Intern
A coward is someone who is not scared of doing but rather scared of changing
Cosmo the Intern
it will rather lead to more patriotism and more connection to the morals that the conservative party stands for
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I don't believe that. Doing something to kill someone, will change you, and i think when your planning something like that the after math goes through your mind many the times
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Murder's always gonna have effects, both positive and negative
Another New Blach
And it will solidify the shooters backers. Once one person will do something as huge and brand then more will be inspired
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blach you sound like you're plotting a murder
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ðŸ˜
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It's a cycle. Shooter kill kirk. Someone is inspired and try to kill kirks replacement. Kirks, side has had enough and some commits violence against the shooters bg
Cosmo the Intern
that's fair
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BRO DEADASS IM NOT A PYSCHO. Just devil's advocate
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Bro I feel like I'm getting debate gang banged bro
Cosmo the Intern
If it could be called something I would call it the Ted Kazcinski manifesto effect
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Was he the mailbox bomber?
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Also y just wondering?
Cosmo the Intern
yeah. and he wrote a 'manifesto' which then inspired the first trump shooter than the second than the Luigi guy than a few others and probably whoever did this shooting
Another New Blach
Ahh right
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When u say the second do u mean the golf course one?
Cosmo the Intern
yeah
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Dam I jsut watched some vids
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Kk
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Anyway
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Gg on the discussion
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But I need sleep
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Ttyl
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Gn
Cosmo the Intern
alr
Cosmo the Intern
shooter finally got cai=ught
DaRey1Cray
ohhh shittt
Cosmo the Intern
fr
Cosmo the Intern
maybe. details have been a little sparse currently
Heroin Monkey
Didn't they arrest the wrong guy
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I think so
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There's another suspect in custody
Heroin Monkey
I also saw the video
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which one
Heroin Monkey
The 4 second long one
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the close up?
Heroin Monkey
The one recorded from a gallery
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oh yeah
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I saw one from right up front
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it was horrible
Heroin Monkey
That one was right up front
Heroin Monkey
He was definitely shot in the neck
DaRey1Cray
ye saw the vid no chance he survived
DaRey1Cray
he legit was leaking
opal 😿
DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD
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Murder is not cause for celebration
Cosmo the Intern
are you fucking serious
mal 💙
……………
Cosmo the Intern
are you seriously fucking supporting political violence? what kind of monster has your mom turned you into
mal 💙
you gotta remember that he was a person with a family
mal 💙
a wife and 2 very young children
mal 💙
and friends
mal 💙
when shit like this happens you gotta separate the guy from his political views
Cosmo the Intern
He was loved by millions as someone who stood for what the constitution was made for: freedom of speech. He was directly debating with someone when he was shot
Cosmo the Intern
A person is never his political views
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I refuse to believe that
mal 💙
he now has 2 kids who are gonna grow up without their father
mal 💙
agreed, thats why you gotta separate them
mal 💙
its just especially important in situations like this
mal 💙
to remember that he was a person with a life outside of his political debates and beliefs
Cosmo the Intern
And to strike someone down just because of you disagree with them is horrid in every way and form
mal 💙
absolutely
mal 💙
ugh i can’t stop thinking abt those poor kids
mal 💙
they’re gonna grow up without a father just because some violent dumbass didn’t agree with their daddy’s views
mal 💙
it’s disgusting
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It's so sad cause they're probably also going to grow up being mocked for it by the sick people who think it's great that their dad was murdered
mal 💙
yep
Heroin Monkey
And we just forgot about the 2 senators in Minnesota who were shot
Heroin Monkey
And the school shooting that happened yesterday
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We didn't forget, I've seen a lot covering both of those things
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it's just unfortunate how a lot of people are reacting to the Kirk situation
Heroin Monkey
I think a school shooting is worse than a political influencer getting assassinated
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I think a life being lost is bad in any situation
Heroin Monkey
But kids too
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someone lost kids yesterday, and some kids lost their dad
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It was tragic in both situations
mal 💙
we dont forget
mal 💙
we just add more people to our prayers
Heroin Monkey
There were no posts then
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A post on a niche jokes website doesn't qualify the importance of something
mal 💙
and thats awful
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Plus the kirk shooting was live, recorded, and graphic
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Its virality contributed to the creation of this post
Heroin Monkey
I mean charlie Kirk did say that gun deaths were going to be a natural result of gun freedom and then he got shot
altSymphony
Regardless of how anyone feels politically, murder of an innocent person exercising a constitutional right is not at all justified
Heroin Monkey
He supported what killed him
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Banning guns wouldn't have stopped that from happening
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The campus prohibits firearms to begin with
Heroin Monkey
Yes it probably would have
Heroin Monkey
It isn't hard to get a gun onto a campus
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What's your point?
Heroin Monkey
It should just be harder to get a gun in America overall
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This isn't something to debate about right now. Lives were lost, a family was torn apart, and it's a very sad and unfortunate situation. Regardless of the politics, an innocent man was murdered through senseless violence.
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It's sad to see people celebrating murder.
DaRapBoat
But who’s gonna take Charlie Kirk’s WIFE
Heroin Monkey
Jake when he cant argue
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Me when I have emotions like a normal human
Heroin Monkey
More weapons of murder leads to more murder
Heroin Monkey
It's not hard to understand
Heroin Monkey
Like this wouldn't have happened if there were restrictions on guns
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I hope you can find it in yourself to understand that unjust hatred is the direct cause of this
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Not the fact that guns exist
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this transcends the debate about firearms
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And shows how evil our society is
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To the point where fucking killing someone is seen as a good thing
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To the point it's mocked
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It's sickening to see how many people are so hateful that they'd condone killing if it's of someone they don't agree with politically
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You can hate the guy all you want but murdering him is just awful
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And trying to use it as a means to push unconstitutional agenda is incredibly disrespectful
helo
Did he get shot in the left side of his neck and is ded and they got the wrong suspect, and they are trying to still find the guy, and he was around college age?
Heroin Monkey
Ok well trump is being very unconstitutional
helo
Who cares honestly guys.
Heroin Monkey
Sending the national guard to dc is not under the power of the executive branch
Heroin Monkey
That's unconstitutional
mal 💙
so sorry that he has feelings and is a good person smh
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I care about ignorance and meaningless argument with no actual substance
helo
arguing aint gonna do anything tho
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Exactly my point
mal 💙
oh so then murdering a man is perfectly fine then 🙄
Heroin Monkey
When did I say that
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Argument is antagonistic discussion in which people don't have any care for the other person or what they're saying
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Debate is structured and considerate
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In a conversation, one person can be debating and the other can be arguing, which is unfortunate
helo
arent you guys arguing?
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Not necessarily
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But I feel like the things I'm saying aren't actually being considered for their meaning
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Whatever the case, I'll agree this conversation isn't going to amount to anything
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Especially when people don't listen
Heroin Monkey
I've seen thr national guard harassing homeless people in dc
mal 💙
and thats sad
Heroin Monkey
He called the guy who tried to beat Paul Pelosi to death a "patriot"
mal 💙
thats also sad
opal 😿
this happens every single day to a child in gaza by the way
opal 😿
no one has shown sympathy for Palestinians but GOD FORBID Charlie Kirk gets murdered
Heroin Monkey
Srsly
opal 😿
you support genocide so I don't care?
opal 😿
400,000 people is an estimation for the people killed in Gaza by the way
Heroin Monkey
That's like a quarter of the population
mal 💙
and thats absolutely awful
opal 😿
And I don't CARE about his family, his opinions SUCKED and he was an islamophobic, sexist person
mal 💙
but that doesnt negate what his friends and family are gonna now suffer
opal 😿
He sure seems like a fucking awful husband and parent to me if he supports what he dos
opal 😿
He supports anything that doesn't make straight white men look bad
opal 😿
And yes, of course his family will be devastated, I really wish the best for them
Heroin Monkey
I feel like getting bombed out of your home is worse than your husband dying
opal 😿
I feel like your infant child's head being blown off and you getting kicked out of your own house is worse
opal 😿
Exactly
mal 💙
omfg are yall dense
mal 💙
yes worse happens
mal 💙
but that doesnt mean their suffering doesnt matter
opal 😿
Buddy I'm supporting what you're saying
opal 😿
I genuinely feel for his friends and family
opal 😿
I'm not saying that to be nice
mal 💙
yeah well this feels hella fucking disrespectful
opal 😿
If calling out a genocide in the time of the death of an extremist conservative makes me disrespectful I guess I am lol
Heroin Monkey
Genocide is worse than a singular murder
opal 😿
I'm not the guy who likes to compare trauma
opal 😿
But
opal 😿
Idk
mal 💙
all im gonna say is when something happens, 99% of the time there will have been a worse event in history. but that doesn't negate what his family is going through. 2 young children are going to grown up not only without their father, but they'll likely be made fun of because of who their dad is
mal 💙
his wife probably dreamt of having a long happy marriage with her husband and someone ripped that from her
opal 😿
Exactly
mal 💙
so yes worse happens, but thats not relevant to this discussion.
opal 😿
I mean he did say he doesn't feel compassion like his wife does which is low-key a red flag but
mal 💙
idfc abt the red flags
Cosmo the Intern
are you literally serious?
mal 💙
that does not justify what happened
opal 😿
Yeah dummy
opal 😿
While you're talking about how "Israel is peaceful" they're shooting and killing children btw
opal 😿
They've killed 20% of the population in Gaza for a "Jewish state"
helo
btw
opal 😿
Sounds more like a settler colonialist apartheid ethnostate to me
Cosmo the Intern
Yeah but when a genocide isn't a genocide, you can't be talking
mal 💙
btw opal j so yk im not mad at you at all rn im j very passionate abt what i believe
opal 😿
So itt actually is a genocide and you're brainwashed
opal 😿
Yeah totally! Me too.
mal 💙
ok good cus ppl always think im mad when i debate but i j get passionate
Heroin Monkey
It is by definition a genocide
Cosmo the Intern
that is an absolute lie
opal 😿
I just said an estimation, moron
opal 😿
1,200 Israelis were killed ( a lot of them by the IDF themself or IDF soldiers ) and like 100,000+ Palestinians were killed
helo
Thats a bit rude
mal 💙
it honestly j makes all this sad that worse happens than a singular man being shot
mal 💙
this world is disgusting sometimes.
opal 😿
Fr
opal 😿
I don't really give a shit, because someone is saying that Palestinian children starving to death and people's homes being stolen deliberately isn't signs of a genocide
Cosmo the Intern
A genocide is when a nation deliberately harms, kills, or prevents a population from having kids for political, religious, ethnic, or racial reasons
opal 😿
That is what is happening in Gaza lol
Heroin Monkey
Yes that is what is happening
Cosmo the Intern
lol no it isn't
opal 😿
Buddy
Heroin Monkey
You're proving my point
opal 😿
Palestinian kids are being shot in the head
mal 💙
lol is crazy.
helo
lol fr
opal 😿
You're a genocide denying Nazi
helo
lmao
opal 😿
They throw food at people like in fucking auschwitz
helo
cool
opal 😿
Say three reasons why it's not a genocide
helo
what
opal 😿
Say three reasons
opal 😿
Dumbass
helo
bro talk to cosmo
mal 💙
that is so disrespectful wtf
opal 😿
No you tell me
opal 😿
Because you just agreed with him
helo
idrc
opal 😿
I wanna hear what you have to say
helo
thats why i said it
opal 😿
Ok so you're just uneducated
helo
yeah sure
Cosmo the Intern
nearly 2000 Israelis have been killed by now. On October 7 most of the deaths were civilians killed by Hamas. And 100k palestinians is very wrong
opal 😿
Why do you care about something 2 years ago rather than what's going on now?
opal 😿
Try living in Gaza for a day lol
mal 💙
ok guys im removing myself from this convo cus im getting hella fucking pissed
mal 💙
cya
Cosmo the Intern
throwing logical fallacies, I see
opal 😿
Good idea I get ragebaited easily
helo
lol ahhahaha ur so FUNNY
opal 😿
I'm not doing that I'm just calling you out
Heroin Monkey
Oh no 1/50th of the amount of deaths in the apartheid state
Cosmo the Intern
what lies have I stated?
opal 😿
Cosmo what about the settlements in the West Bank
opal 😿
That it's not a genocide?
Cosmo the Intern
what makes Israel an apartheid
opal 😿
Idk maybe that Palestinians have significantly less rights, there's literally a wall separating the Jews from Arabs, Palestinians have to go through checkpoints to even go out of where they are and they can't go to Israel
opal 😿
I could go on
opal 😿
Cosmo
Heroin Monkey
Cosmo the Intern
stating that is a genocide is an opinion. Stating that 100k gazans have died is a lie
opal 😿
I asked you about the west bank settlements
opal 😿
Answer it
Cosmo the Intern
Wikipedia is not a good sourc
Heroin Monkey
About the west bank moving your people into an occupied territory is by definition a war crime
opal 😿
Like the IDF Twitter posts are better
helo
opal r u gay?
Cosmo the Intern
While there are acts of violence from some settlements, those acts do not represent every settlement
Heroin Monkey
Cosmo the Intern
As a second hand source it is better than a community edited site
Cosmo the Intern
the ICJ is just anti-Israel. Nothing more. It is heavily biased against Israel just like the UN, the EU, and many other countries
Cosmo the Intern
that is a logical fallacy.
Cosmo the Intern
lol that is so untrue. He criticizes Islam because many things that Islam is used for is horrid and cruel.
Cosmo the Intern
And he doesn't give a flying fuck if you are a man or a woman
helo
United Kingdom UK
Bro post this somewhere else
Cosmo the Intern
new update. it is confirmed from a leak that it was a trantifa "activist"