Charlie Kirk Shot Report

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MY ROOMMATE SHOWED ME THE UNCENSORED CLOSE UP

pls i beg someone explain who charlie kirk is and what happened to him

he's a political speaker in america

goes around to colleges to debate uneducated young adults

and someone thought it would be acceptable to shoot him in the neck because they disagreed with him

and a lot of people online and irl are praising the shooter

ik this doesn't help the case about america not being a shooting range 😭

But it's insane that people will justify murder because they don't agree with someone's political party

Elsaaaaaaaaaaa

like are words not a thing?

Not when people are too ignorant to listen

altSymphony

But it's insane that people will justify murder because they don't agree with someone's political party

like regardless of who you vote for MURDER IS WRONG

like idk what went through that guy mind to shoot him

Apparently he's still alive but in pretty bad condition

I don't think they've released that yet

altSymphony

Apparently he's still alive but in pretty bad condition

he's in critical condition

Cosmo the Intern

he's in critical condition

yeah

i thought they had a video though or can you not see who had the gun in the video

altSymphony

it was from 200 meters away

speak American bruh

Elsaaaaaaaaaaa

idk my measurements :(

it's alr

the one I saw was from someone like right in the front row

I saw the one where the guy in one of the back rows zooms in on him the second he gets shot

Cosmo the Intern

I saw the one where the guy in one of the back rows zooms in on him the second he gets shot

oh yeah I saw that

he's so lucky that it didn't hit him in a critical spot

altSymphony

the one I saw was from someone like right in the front row

this one's really awful cause it goes longer than the one from the back row

Cosmo the Intern

he's so lucky that it didn't hit him in a critical spot

OH IT DID

right there in the corroded artery

but what's crazy is that everyone looks to where the shot happened from

like you can very clearly tell it hit him in a really critical spot

i don't wanna get into the details

i dont have a clue what any of those things you are naming in the neck are but they sound serious

there's witnesses saying they saw blood coming from his neck

according to the nyt the old man wasn't actually the shooter

they got the wrong dude in custody

but I watched the short of it. he got shot right under his jaw

altSymphony

he's a political speaker in america

blach ^

Another New Blach

Someone tell me who the Charlie kirk guy is

he's a conservative influencer and founder of Turning Point USA

Cosmo the Intern

he's a conservative influencer and founder of Turning Point USA

Is he right wing?

He's commonly known for his public 'meet and greets'

Another New Blach

Is he right wing?

right leaning, yeah

Another New Blach

@eb are you for authoritarianism

No. Only weaklings need someone telling them what to do.

mal 💙

i think he died

i think you're right

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mal 💙

fuck

nyt says the president said he died

I think his kids were like super young too, that's so awful

the wikipedia article is already past tense :(

altSymphony

I think his kids were like super young too, that's so awful

yeah they are

altSymphony

I think his kids were like super young too, that's so awful

3 and 1 :(

Apparently his wife and kids were there too

which is really sad but at least they were probably with him when he went

altSymphony

which is really sad but at least they were probably with him when he went

i hope so

altSymphony

nyt says the president said he died

Bro how the hell was TRUMP the 1st one to know who died

he prolly wasn’t the first to know but the first to make it public

Damn, that’s fucked up

altSymphony

I think his kids were like super young too, that's so awful

he's 31 himself

Cosmo the Intern

I just started watching Ben Shapiro's livestream

Weren’t they ENEMIES

DaRapBoat

Weren’t they ENEMIES

while they had some disagreements, no

and political violence is political violence. political violence is always wrong

Another New Blach

What did I miss

BRO HE’S CONFIRMED DEAD

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Holy shit

Wait you might be on to something

Cosmo the Intern

and political violence is political violence. political violence is always wrong

^^^

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Yeah, I can DEFINITELY think of some examples

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regardless of what someone's done

unless they're actively like holding a hostage

straight up killing someone is not okay

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altSymphony

unless they're actively like holding a hostage

then that's not a political shooting.

Cosmo the Intern

then that's not a political shooting.

yeah

there's a difference between murder and non-murder deaths

Bro they’re removing all the videos of him being shot, they’re erasing HISTORY bro

DaRapBoat

Bro they’re removing all the videos of him being shot, they’re erasing HISTORY bro

I saw a few good ones.

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DaRapBoat

Bro they’re removing all the videos of him being shot, they’re erasing HISTORY bro

damn

cosmo is there a fancy science word like hyperphantasia but for like photographic memory

altSymphony

cosmo is there a fancy science word like hyperphantasia but for like photographic memory

I'd assume so

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Cosmo the Intern

morally they are brutal

like they seem dirty and horrid in a way that is hard to explain

intentionally killing someone is just wrong though 😭

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No, not even for the right reasons 😭

that's why we have a justice system, which is admittedly flawed

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the last freedom fighters that have purposefully killed that deserve that term are the rebels in starwars

But in MORAL terms, killing someone who did something bad is still bad

altSymphony

Morality transcends legality

Does it though? Like look at the world, not much murder

I'm saying moral principles should not be discerned under the same categorization as legal principles

a lot of legal principles are BASED on moral principles

I feel like killing anyone is so unnecessary

altSymphony

I'm saying moral principles should not be discerned under the same categorization as legal principles

I agree

altSymphony

I feel like killing anyone is so unnecessary

It is for us. Not for others

however in the modern west, most legal principles have derived from morals from the bible

That guy thought it was necessary, to stop the CEO from fucking ppl over

Humanity's problem is that many people still see murder as a solution to problems

Maybe it'll change things, but killing someone is still a bad thing

Even if you're killing a bad person

You could make the argument that it's more beneficial if someone dies

altSymphony

Humanity's problem is that many people still see murder as a solution to problems

It's not a solution it's a route

Which is due to the way our society is organized

It's a cheap, morally wrong, ILLEGAL thing to do

altSymphony

Which is due to the way our society is organized

Ok, what you shoot the person who organised your society?

Another New Blach

Ok, what you shoot the person who organised your society?

I'm saying killing someone can be beneficial because society allows it to be

Another New Blach

That guy thought it was necessary, to stop the CEO from fucking ppl over

he shot and killed a man illegally.

altSymphony

from all sides, killing is bad

I'm not saying killing isn't bad. I'm saying that it's never not necessary

altSymphony

I'm saying killing someone can be beneficial because society allows it to be

not because, but "if"

Cosmo the Intern

not because, but "if"

good point

Another New Blach

I'm not saying killing isn't bad. I'm saying that it's never not necessary

In a way I do see your point though as a western relative pacifist I hate death and fear death

Cosmo the Intern

In a way I do see your point though as a western relative pacifist I hate death and fear death

I'm not serious btw, I feel like I sound like I'm serious when I'm on abt this. I'm against war, but not against change and most of the time that's how change comes

Another New Blach

I'm not serious btw, I feel like I sound like I'm serious when I'm on abt this. I'm against war, but not against change and most of the time that's how change comes

That's what's so fucked up though, we live in a world where so much awful stuff is happened that murder can prevent it, even though murder is inherently wrong

altSymphony

That's what's so fucked up though, we live in a world where so much awful stuff is happened that murder can prevent it, even though murder is inherently wrong

True true, but st the same time:

Trolley problem.

Another New Blach

I'm not serious btw, I feel like I sound like I'm serious when I'm on abt this. I'm against war, but not against change and most of the time that's how change comes

change doesn't come from war. It comes from something that connects people together in a way that makes them one

Another New Blach

True true, but st the same time:

Trolley problem.

That's an excellent counter, I'll give you that

Another New Blach

True true, but st the same time:

Trolley problem.

Would you like 1 guy if it could stop a war?^

altSymphony

That's an excellent counter, I'll give you that

Thank h

Another New Blach

True true, but st the same time:

Trolley problem.

That really is what it boils down to - You could make a change for the better by actively participating in something very wrong

Cosmo the Intern

change doesn't come from war. It comes from something that connects people together in a way that makes them one

Change from people being connected is like 67% war

Another New Blach

Change from people being connected is like 67% war

the collapse of the Soviet union did not come from war but from a leader who understood the russian people

altSymphony

That really is what it boils down to - You could make a change for the better by actively participating in something very wrong

Is it wrong if it's for the better? You have to go throught the field to open the gate on the otherside

Another New Blach

Is it wrong if it's for the better? You have to go throught the field to open the gate on the otherside

change is just a way of saying this becomes that

Cosmo the Intern

the collapse of the Soviet union did not come from war but from a leader who understood the russian people

Ok. But that's 1 instance. Take the Southampton riots, people came together because wanted change, and they way they tried to get it is violent. Not all change needs to be violent, true, but if you want to change something in a court of law that you know will never pass then violence is what ppl turn to

The reason that people killed Charlie Kirk is because people were scared because he was different. He was the best conservative influencer

Violence is used to try to prevent change but rather leads to new

Cosmo the Intern

The reason that people killed Charlie Kirk is because people were scared because he was different. He was the best conservative influencer

And that's the people who don't want change. If you want to stop a man from telling people how he wants to fix the world, how do you do it peacefully?

Another New Blach

Is it wrong if it's for the better? You have to go throught the field to open the gate on the otherside

Morally murder is wrong, logically (in certain situations) it's an option to reap some sort of benefit

Cosmo the Intern

Violence is used to try to prevent change but rather leads to new

^^^

Like, killing Charlie Kirk isn't going to make a huge dent in the efforts of the right political wing

A coward is someone who is not scared of doing but rather scared of changing

altSymphony

Like, killing Charlie Kirk isn't going to make a huge dent in the efforts of the right political wing

it will rather lead to more patriotism and more connection to the morals that the conservative party stands for

Cosmo the Intern

A coward is someone who is not scared of doing but rather scared of changing

I don't believe that. Doing something to kill someone, will change you, and i think when your planning something like that the after math goes through your mind many the times

Cosmo the Intern

it will rather lead to more patriotism and more connection to the morals that the conservative party stands for

Murder's always gonna have effects, both positive and negative

Cosmo the Intern

it will rather lead to more patriotism and more connection to the morals that the conservative party stands for

And it will solidify the shooters backers. Once one person will do something as huge and brand then more will be inspired

blach you sound like you're plotting a murder

Another New Blach

And it will solidify the shooters backers. Once one person will do something as huge and brand then more will be inspired

It's a cycle. Shooter kill kirk. Someone is inspired and try to kill kirks replacement. Kirks, side has had enough and some commits violence against the shooters bg

Another New Blach

And it will solidify the shooters backers. Once one person will do something as huge and brand then more will be inspired

that's fair

altSymphony

blach you sound like you're plotting a murder

BRO DEADASS IM NOT A PYSCHO. Just devil's advocate

Another New Blach

It's a cycle. Shooter kill kirk. Someone is inspired and try to kill kirks replacement. Kirks, side has had enough and some commits violence against the shooters bg

If it could be called something I would call it the Ted Kazcinski manifesto effect

Cosmo the Intern

If it could be called something I would call it the Ted Kazcinski manifesto effect

Was he the mailbox bomber?

Another New Blach

Was he the mailbox bomber?

yeah. and he wrote a 'manifesto' which then inspired the first trump shooter than the second than the Luigi guy than a few others and probably whoever did this shooting

Cosmo the Intern

yeah. and he wrote a 'manifesto' which then inspired the first trump shooter than the second than the Luigi guy than a few others and probably whoever did this shooting

When u say the second do u mean the golf course one?

Cosmo the Intern

shooter finally got cai=ught

maybe. details have been a little sparse currently

Cosmo the Intern

maybe. details have been a little sparse currently

Didn't they arrest the wrong guy

Heroin Monkey

Didn't they arrest the wrong guy

I think so

There's another suspect in custody

Cosmo the Intern

don't listen to cnn

He was definitely shot in the neck

ye saw the vid no chance he survived

opal 😿

DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD

Murder is not cause for celebration

opal 😿

DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD

are you fucking serious

opal 😿

DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD

……………

opal 😿

DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD

are you seriously fucking supporting political violence? what kind of monster has your mom turned you into

you gotta remember that he was a person with a family

when shit like this happens you gotta separate the guy from his political views

He was loved by millions as someone who stood for what the constitution was made for: freedom of speech. He was directly debating with someone when he was shot

mal 💙

when shit like this happens you gotta separate the guy from his political views

A person is never his political views

mal 💙

a wife and 2 very young children

he now has 2 kids who are gonna grow up without their father

Cosmo the Intern

A person is never his political views

agreed, thats why you gotta separate them

its just especially important in situations like this

to remember that he was a person with a life outside of his political debates and beliefs

And to strike someone down just because of you disagree with them is horrid in every way and form

ugh i can’t stop thinking abt those poor kids

they’re gonna grow up without a father just because some violent dumbass didn’t agree with their daddy’s views

It's so sad cause they're probably also going to grow up being mocked for it by the sick people who think it's great that their dad was murdered

mal 💙

when shit like this happens you gotta separate the guy from his political views

And we just forgot about the 2 senators in Minnesota who were shot

And the school shooting that happened yesterday

Heroin Monkey

And we just forgot about the 2 senators in Minnesota who were shot

We didn't forget, I've seen a lot covering both of those things

it's just unfortunate how a lot of people are reacting to the Kirk situation

I think a school shooting is worse than a political influencer getting assassinated

I think a life being lost is bad in any situation

someone lost kids yesterday, and some kids lost their dad

Heroin Monkey

And we just forgot about the 2 senators in Minnesota who were shot

we dont forget

A post on a niche jokes website doesn't qualify the importance of something

Heroin Monkey

There were no posts then

and thats awful

Plus the kirk shooting was live, recorded, and graphic

Its virality contributed to the creation of this post

I mean charlie Kirk did say that gun deaths were going to be a natural result of gun freedom and then he got shot

Regardless of how anyone feels politically, murder of an innocent person exercising a constitutional right is not at all justified

Banning guns wouldn't have stopped that from happening

The campus prohibits firearms to begin with

altSymphony

Banning guns wouldn't have stopped that from happening

Yes it probably would have

It should just be harder to get a gun in America overall

This isn't something to debate about right now. Lives were lost, a family was torn apart, and it's a very sad and unfortunate situation. Regardless of the politics, an innocent man was murdered through senseless violence.

It's sad to see people celebrating murder.

But who’s gonna take Charlie Kirk’s WIFE

altSymphony

This isn't something to debate about right now. Lives were lost, a family was torn apart, and it's a very sad and unfortunate situation. Regardless of the politics, an innocent man was murdered through senseless violence.

Jake when he cant argue

Heroin Monkey

Jake when he cant argue

Me when I have emotions like a normal human

More weapons of murder leads to more murder

Like this wouldn't have happened if there were restrictions on guns

I hope you can find it in yourself to understand that unjust hatred is the direct cause of this

this transcends the debate about firearms

To the point where fucking killing someone is seen as a good thing

It's sickening to see how many people are so hateful that they'd condone killing if it's of someone they don't agree with politically

You can hate the guy all you want but murdering him is just awful

And trying to use it as a means to push unconstitutional agenda is incredibly disrespectful

Did he get shot in the left side of his neck and is ded and they got the wrong suspect, and they are trying to still find the guy, and he was around college age?

altSymphony

And trying to use it as a means to push unconstitutional agenda is incredibly disrespectful

Ok well trump is being very unconstitutional

Who cares honestly guys.

Sending the national guard to dc is not under the power of the executive branch

Heroin Monkey

Jake when he cant argue

so sorry that he has feelings and is a good person smh

helo

Who cares honestly guys.

I care about ignorance and meaningless argument with no actual substance

arguing aint gonna do anything tho

Heroin Monkey

Ok well trump is being very unconstitutional

oh so then murdering a man is perfectly fine then 🙄

mal 💙

oh so then murdering a man is perfectly fine then 🙄

When did I say that

helo

arguing aint gonna do anything tho

Argument is antagonistic discussion in which people don't have any care for the other person or what they're saying

Debate is structured and considerate

In a conversation, one person can be debating and the other can be arguing, which is unfortunate

arent you guys arguing?

But I feel like the things I'm saying aren't actually being considered for their meaning

Whatever the case, I'll agree this conversation isn't going to amount to anything

Especially when people don't listen

I've seen thr national guard harassing homeless people in dc

He called the guy who tried to beat Paul Pelosi to death a "patriot"

this happens every single day to a child in gaza by the way

no one has shown sympathy for Palestinians but GOD FORBID Charlie Kirk gets murdered

opal 😿

no one has shown sympathy for Palestinians but GOD FORBID Charlie Kirk gets murdered

Srsly

Cosmo the Intern

are you seriously fucking supporting political violence? what kind of monster has your mom turned you into

you support genocide so I don't care?

400,000 people is an estimation for the people killed in Gaza by the way

opal 😿

400,000 people is an estimation for the people killed in Gaza by the way

That's like a quarter of the population

And I don't CARE about his family, his opinions SUCKED and he was an islamophobic, sexist person

but that doesnt negate what his friends and family are gonna now suffer

mal 💙

but that doesnt negate what his friends and family are gonna now suffer

He sure seems like a fucking awful husband and parent to me if he supports what he dos

He supports anything that doesn't make straight white men look bad

And yes, of course his family will be devastated, I really wish the best for them

mal 💙

but that doesnt negate what his friends and family are gonna now suffer

I feel like getting bombed out of your home is worse than your husband dying

Heroin Monkey

I feel like getting bombed out of your home is worse than your husband dying

I feel like your infant child's head being blown off and you getting kicked out of your own house is worse

but that doesnt mean their suffering doesnt matter

mal 💙

omfg are yall dense

Buddy I'm supporting what you're saying

I genuinely feel for his friends and family

opal 😿

I feel like your infant child's head being blown off and you getting kicked out of your own house is worse

yeah well this feels hella fucking disrespectful

mal 💙

yeah well this feels hella fucking disrespectful

If calling out a genocide in the time of the death of an extremist conservative makes me disrespectful I guess I am lol

Genocide is worse than a singular murder

I'm not the guy who likes to compare trauma

all im gonna say is when something happens, 99% of the time there will have been a worse event in history. but that doesn't negate what his family is going through. 2 young children are going to grown up not only without their father, but they'll likely be made fun of because of who their dad is

his wife probably dreamt of having a long happy marriage with her husband and someone ripped that from her

mal 💙

all im gonna say is when something happens, 99% of the time there will have been a worse event in history. but that doesn't negate what his family is going through. 2 young children are going to grown up not only without their father, but they'll likely be made fun of because of who their dad is

Exactly

so yes worse happens, but thats not relevant to this discussion.

mal 💙

his wife probably dreamt of having a long happy marriage with her husband and someone ripped that from her

I mean he did say he doesn't feel compassion like his wife does which is low-key a red flag but

opal 😿

you support genocide so I don't care?

are you literally serious?

Cosmo the Intern

are you literally serious?

Yeah dummy

While you're talking about how "Israel is peaceful" they're shooting and killing children btw

They've killed 20% of the population in Gaza for a "Jewish state"

btw

Sounds more like a settler colonialist apartheid ethnostate to me

Heroin Monkey

Genocide is worse than a singular murder

Yeah but when a genocide isn't a genocide, you can't be talking

btw opal j so yk im not mad at you at all rn im j very passionate abt what i believe

Cosmo the Intern

Yeah but when a genocide isn't a genocide, you can't be talking

So itt actually is a genocide and you're brainwashed

mal 💙

btw opal j so yk im not mad at you at all rn im j very passionate abt what i believe

Yeah totally! Me too.

ok good cus ppl always think im mad when i debate but i j get passionate

Cosmo the Intern

Yeah but when a genocide isn't a genocide, you can't be talking

It is by definition a genocide

opal 😿

400,000 people is an estimation for the people killed in Gaza by the way

that is an absolute lie

Cosmo the Intern

that is an absolute lie

I just said an estimation, moron

1,200 Israelis were killed ( a lot of them by the IDF themself or IDF soldiers ) and like 100,000+ Palestinians were killed

opal 😿

I just said an estimation, moron

Thats a bit rude

it honestly j makes all this sad that worse happens than a singular man being shot

mal 💙

this world is disgusting sometimes.

Fr

helo

Thats a bit rude

I don't really give a shit, because someone is saying that Palestinian children starving to death and people's homes being stolen deliberately isn't signs of a genocide

Heroin Monkey

It is by definition a genocide

A genocide is when a nation deliberately harms, kills, or prevents a population from having kids for political, religious, ethnic, or racial reasons

Cosmo the Intern

A genocide is when a nation deliberately harms, kills, or prevents a population from having kids for political, religious, ethnic, or racial reasons

That is what is happening in Gaza lol

Cosmo the Intern

A genocide is when a nation deliberately harms, kills, or prevents a population from having kids for political, religious, ethnic, or racial reasons

Yes that is what is happening

Palestinian kids are being shot in the head

Cosmo the Intern

lol no it isn't

lol is crazy.

Cosmo the Intern

lol no it isn't

lol fr

lmao

They throw food at people like in fucking auschwitz

cool

helo

lol fr

Say three reasons why it's not a genocide

what

bro talk to cosmo

idrc

thats why i said it

yeah sure

opal 😿

1,200 Israelis were killed ( a lot of them by the IDF themself or IDF soldiers ) and like 100,000+ Palestinians were killed

nearly 2000 Israelis have been killed by now. On October 7 most of the deaths were civilians killed by Hamas. And 100k palestinians is very wrong

Cosmo the Intern

nearly 2000 Israelis have been killed by now. On October 7 most of the deaths were civilians killed by Hamas. And 100k palestinians is very wrong

Why do you care about something 2 years ago rather than what's going on now?

helo

yeah sure

Try living in Gaza for a day lol

ok guys im removing myself from this convo cus im getting hella fucking pissed

opal 😿

Why do you care about something 2 years ago rather than what's going on now?

throwing logical fallacies, I see

mal 💙

ok guys im removing myself from this convo cus im getting hella fucking pissed

Good idea I get ragebaited easily

opal 😿

Try living in Gaza for a day lol

lol ahhahaha ur so FUNNY

Cosmo the Intern

throwing logical fallacies, I see

I'm not doing that I'm just calling you out

Cosmo the Intern

nearly 2000 Israelis have been killed by now. On October 7 most of the deaths were civilians killed by Hamas. And 100k palestinians is very wrong

Oh no 1/50th of the amount of deaths in the apartheid state

opal 😿

I'm not doing that I'm just calling you out

what lies have I stated?

Cosmo what about the settlements in the West Bank

Cosmo the Intern

what lies have I stated?

That it's not a genocide?

Heroin Monkey

Oh no 1/50th of the amount of deaths in the apartheid state

what makes Israel an apartheid

Cosmo the Intern

what makes Israel an apartheid

Idk maybe that Palestinians have significantly less rights, there's literally a wall separating the Jews from Arabs, Palestinians have to go through checkpoints to even go out of where they are and they can't go to Israel

opal 😿

Cosmo what about the settlements in the West Bank

Cosmo

Cosmo the Intern

what makes Israel an apartheid

opal 😿

That it's not a genocide?

stating that is a genocide is an opinion. Stating that 100k gazans have died is a lie

Cosmo the Intern

stating that is a genocide is an opinion. Stating that 100k gazans have died is a lie

I asked you about the west bank settlements

About the west bank moving your people into an occupied territory is by definition a war crime

Cosmo the Intern

Wikipedia is not a good sourc

Like the IDF Twitter posts are better

opal r u gay?

opal 😿

I asked you about the west bank settlements

While there are acts of violence from some settlements, those acts do not represent every settlement

opal 😿

Like the IDF Twitter posts are better

As a second hand source it is better than a community edited site

Heroin Monkey
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the ICJ is just anti-Israel. Nothing more. It is heavily biased against Israel just like the UN, the EU, and many other countries

Heroin Monkey

Genocide is worse than a singular murder

that is a logical fallacy.

opal 😿

And I don't CARE about his family, his opinions SUCKED and he was an islamophobic, sexist person

lol that is so untrue. He criticizes Islam because many things that Islam is used for is horrid and cruel.

And he doesn't give a flying fuck if you are a man or a woman

new update. it is confirmed from a leak that it was a trantifa "activist"