"The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles. Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen."
The Bible contrasts "pure religion" with false practices, defining true religion as a life of love for God and others, shown through compassion for the needy and a life free from worldly pollution. It identifies "false religion" as systems built on human tradition, worldly philosophy, or self-serving rules that lead people away from Christ and God. The Bible presents Jesus as the unique path to God, stating that any religion that denies Him is a false one
The Bible contrasts "pure religion" with false practices, defining true religion as a life of love for God and others, shown through compassion for the needy and a life free from worldly pollution. It identifies "false religion" as systems built on human tradition, worldly philosophy, or self-serving rules that lead people away from Christ and God. The Bible presents Jesus as the unique path to God, stating that any religion that denies Him is a false one
The Bible contrasts "pure religion" with false practices, defining true religion as a life of love for God and others, shown through compassion for the needy and a life free from worldly pollution. It identifies "false religion" as systems built on human tradition, worldly philosophy, or self-serving rules that lead people away from Christ and God. The Bible presents Jesus as the unique path to God, stating that any religion that denies Him is a false one
you know the prayer "Hear O Israel: The Lord is our god; The Lord is one"?
also israel commited so many war crimes in palestine like occupying the west bank, segregating everything, banning the flying of the palestinian flag, removing palestinians human rights, making random arrests, and israel moved their people onto the palestinians land, which is also against the geneva convention
I think they named it Israel to distract from the fact that it Is fake
there was no "Palestine" till the Romans decided to rename Judea, Shumria, and Israel because they thought of the Jews as scorn so the named it Suria Philistina because of some European tribe that was destroyed
there was no "Palestine" till the Romans decided to rename Judea, Shumria, and Israel because they thought of the Jews as scorn so the named it Suria Philistina because of some European tribe that was destroyed
Bro, manority of Israelis aren’t descendants of Canaanites but Lebanese, Palestinians, Syrians and Jordanians literally ARE
Jesus is God in the form of the son, theres the Father, the Son and the Holy spirit
El if the trinity is true then how did God exalt Jesus to the highest place in Philippians 2:9? They should be the same thing. Deuteronomy 6:4 "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one" this says that the Lord is one, not many, just one
El if the trinity is true then how did God exalt Jesus to the highest place in Philippians 2:9? They should be the same thing. Deuteronomy 6:4 "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one" this says that the Lord is one, not many, just one
El if the trinity is true then how did God exalt Jesus to the highest place in Philippians 2:9? They should be the same thing. Deuteronomy 6:4 "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one" this says that the Lord is one, not many, just one
Like I said the Lord is one with many forms, His power is so unexplainable that He can be whatever He wants and whoever He wants whenever he wants. The Holy Trinity is proof of what I said. He is anything and everything.
The bible says the god gave his only begotten son... That doesnt make any sense if he is his own son
In Christianity, God Himself is understood through the doctrine of the Trinity, which posits one God existing as three eternal, co-equal "persons": God the Father, God the Son (Jesus Christ), and God the Holy Spirit. God is one in essence, but three in person, with each person being fully divine. While God the Son (Jesus) is distinct from God the Father in person and relationship, He is also fully God, not a lesser or created being, and serves as the unique link between humanity and the divine.
"What causes quarrels and what causes fights among you? Is it not this, that your passions are at war within you? You desire and do not have, so you murder. You covet and cannot obtain, so you fight and quarrel" - James 4:1 -2
In Christianity, God Himself is understood through the doctrine of the Trinity, which posits one God existing as three eternal, co-equal "persons": God the Father, God the Son (Jesus Christ), and God the Holy Spirit. God is one in essence, but three in person, with each person being fully divine. While God the Son (Jesus) is distinct from God the Father in person and relationship, He is also fully God, not a lesser or created being, and serves as the unique link between humanity and the divine.
"What causes quarrels and what causes fights among you? Is it not this, that your passions are at war within you? You desire and do not have, so you murder. You covet and cannot obtain, so you fight and quarrel" - James 4:1 -2
There is God the Father (Yahweh), God the Son (Jesus), and God the Holy Spirit
Exactly, all different things. Holy spirit comes from god to guide you down the right path. Jesus was gods son he sent to earth as ransom for adam and eves sins to save us. They are all different things. The trinity does not exist.
Exactly, all different things. Holy spirit comes from god to guide you down the right path. Jesus was gods son he sent to earth as ransom for adam and eves sins to save us. They are all different things. The trinity does not exist.
"Get rid of all bitterness, rage and anger, brawling and slander, along with every form of malice. Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each other, just as in Christ God forgave you."
The God who raises the dead to life, who created the heavens and the earth, whose grace surpasses all understanding can most definitely be of a nature we humans cannot comprehend
"Get rid of all bitterness, rage and anger, brawling and slander, along with every form of malice. Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each other, just as in Christ God forgave you."
if man was made in gods image does that mean god just looks lilke a mannequin, like he cant be a man or woman or have a specific race
Key bible quotes on God making man come from the first two chapters of Genesis. Genesis 1:26-27 states God said, "Let us make man in our image," and then created humankind in His image, male and female. Genesis 2:7 describes God forming man from the dust of the earth and breathing life into his nostrils, making him a living being.
"Then God said, 'Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over all the beasts of the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.'"
Humanity rebelled against God and thus we are sinful by nature
Romans 6:23
“For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.” Reflection: Free will entails accountability for our actions. Sin leads to death, but through Christ Jesus, we are offered a choice: to accept the gift of eternal life.
One of my favorite Israeli songs goes "And he protects me, yes, but he leaves the choice in my hands"
"No temptation has overtaken you except what is common to mankind. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can endure it."
the amount of deaths in gaza since october 6th due to israeli soldiers is much higher than the amount of deaths in israel due to palestinians since october 6th
"No temptation has overtaken you except what is common to mankind. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can endure it."
not everything from the bible should be taken directly. The bible is meant to be discussed
the amount of deaths in gaza since october 6th due to israeli soldiers is much higher than the amount of deaths in israel due to palestinians since october 6th
However the overlying cause of death is Islamic extremism
Some people blame god if something bad happens to you, why would you blame him? He wouldnt try to make ur life horrible.
I believe that life is a test, a journey to heaven or hell, whatever obstacles you get are what God believes you can power through and overcome to become the best version of yourself and reach Heaven and peace.
"I consider that our present sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory that will be revealed in us. For the creation waits in eager expectation for the children of God to be revealed. For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the freedom and glory of the children of God."
I believe that life is a test, a journey to heaven or hell, whatever obstacles you get are what God believes you can power through and overcome to become the best version of yourself and reach Heaven and peace.
Life's our trial period to make things right and form a relationship with the God who gave us life in the first place
Psalm 145:20: "The LORD preserveth all them that love him: but all the wicked will he destroy"
Meaning: God will annihilate, or permanently destroy, the wicked. He will not keep them alive in hell in order to torment them because he is a loving god.
Psalm 145:20: "The LORD preserveth all them that love him: but all the wicked will he destroy"
Meaning: God will annihilate, or permanently destroy, the wicked. He will not keep them alive in hell in order to torment them because he is a loving god.
Because at the beginning there had to be SOMETHING that caused it all to happen
I believe that God created Earth but potentially he also created the Big Bang that made earth. He, God has always been there and always will until the end of time
Psalm 145:20: "The LORD preserveth all them that love him: but all the wicked will he destroy"
Meaning: God will annihilate, or permanently destroy, the wicked. He will not keep them alive in hell in order to torment them because he is a loving god.
Psalm 145:20: "The LORD preserveth all them that love him: but all the wicked will he destroy"
Meaning: God will annihilate, or permanently destroy, the wicked. He will not keep them alive in hell in order to torment them because he is a loving god.
neither do I. The world to come is the world we are on
Also it is commonly theorized and believed that Christ descended into the realm of hell to proclaim his victory over sin, not necessarily in a boastful sense but more like "yeah you're cooked"
Heroin Monkey
damn
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
lol
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
biscuit not cookie
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
crisps not chips
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
chips not french fries
helo
Thongs not Flip Flops
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
sweet not candy
altSymphony
haha thongs go in peoples asscracks in america
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
we say sandles :(
altSymphony
and pants go on our legs
altSymphony
hahahaha
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
LOL
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
sandals*
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
jumper not sweater
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
trousers not pants
helo
hoodie
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
wardrobe not closet
Heroin Monkey
at least we have dentist
Heroin Monkey
ss
Heroin Monkey
s
Heroin Monkey
dentists
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
i have dentist thankyou very much
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
my teeth are nice and healthy
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
car park not parking lot
helo
Ihavedentists
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
boot not trunk
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
pathway not sidewalk
Heroin Monkey
name one band from the uk thats not coldplay oasis or radiohead
altSymphony
the beatles
Heroin Monkey
no googling
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
from uk?
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
beatles
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
from my city
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
LIVERPOOL
Heroin Monkey
literally radiohead ripoff
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
UP THE REDS
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
no coz beatles were first
Heroin Monkey
its a joke bro
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
haha so funny
altSymphony
just saw a reel that sayd "your honor, if I spread the legs of a mixed woman, is that segregation?"
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
oh
altSymphony
*said
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
British: Chemist (a drugstore) = American: Drugstore
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
why do u call it drug store? you be making drug deals in there?
DaRapBoat
The only bands worth a shit are D12, G-UNIT, WU-TANG, and NWA
Heroin Monkey
we call it the pharmacy
Heroin Monkey
not the drug store
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
beatles
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
linkin park
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
queen
DaRapBoat
The Beatles aren’t RAP
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
guns n roses
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
kiss
Heroin Monkey
linkin park is from california bro
DaRapBoat
STOOOOOPPPPP!!!!!
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
i didnt say they were from englanf
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
england*
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
brb
DaRapBoat
Rock literally draws its roots from the DEVIL also it copied rap
altSymphony
did it?
Heroin Monkey
rock has been around for longer than rap
Heroin Monkey
rock has been around for longer than rap
Heroin Monkey
rock has been around for longer than rap
Heroin Monkey
rock has been around for longer than rap
Heroin Monkey
rock has been around for longer than rap
opal 😿
LMAO LAG
Heroin Monkey
rap started in the 80s-90s rock started in the 50s-60s
DaRapBoat
White people STOLE it
Heroin Monkey
you are white bro
DaRapBoat
Also I mean modern rock
Heroin Monkey
"the strokes sounds like 21 savage"
ꀘꍏꌩ꒒ꍏ🧚✨ツ
WHERE THEY AT THO🐍🐍🐍
DaRapBoat
Yeah, and I’m not a ROCK (COCK) FARTIST
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
guess what i have for tea
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
hehe
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
sausages mash and gravy
Heroin Monkey
"metallica sounds like central cee"
Heroin Monkey
"death cab for cutie sounds like king von"
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
errrr
Heroin Monkey
see how ridiculous that sounds bro
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
imma just go so i can eat ma sausages and mash bye
DaRapBoat
This also proves that Islam is the true religion I can go on about how modern ROCK and POP “music” literally deaws from Ilbis directly
DaRapBoat
Migga, quit putting WORDS in my mouth
Cosmo the Intern
ok that Islam is against music right?
DaRapBoat
No, only the EXTREMISTS
Heroin Monkey
"radiohead sounds like tupac"
Cosmo the Intern
nope. it is in the quran
Cosmo the Intern
lag go crazy lmao
Heroin Monkey
its my fucking internet bro
Heroin Monkey
its terrible
DaRapBoat
No genius, there’s nothing in the quran saying music is haram, just 1 hadith that people MISCONSTRUE VERY BADLY
Cosmo the Intern
um it is in the quran
Heroin Monkey
"greenday sounds like drake"
Cosmo the Intern
um it has been in Islam for centuries so yes it is against Islam to play music in public lol
DaRapBoat
Bro, I thought you were a JEW
Cosmo the Intern
exactly
Heroin Monkey
well most islamic prayers are sung as music
Heroin Monkey
in mostly islamic countries they play prayers as music over loudspeakers to cities
Cosmo the Intern
there's a difference between religious music and leisure music. Islam is against leisure music
Heroin Monkey
"oasis sounds like kendrick lamar"
DaRapBoat
One time in the Quran Allah complimented singers through a prophet
DaRapBoat
Wtf is bro yapping about???
Heroin Monkey
according to you modern rock copies rap
Cosmo the Intern
one time in the quran Muhammad married a 12 yo
Heroin Monkey
so im just stating your opinion
Cosmo the Intern
rock is much better than rap
DaRapBoat
Modern rock DOES draw its roots from old school hip hop
Heroin Monkey
@eb is rock better than rap
Explain Bear
You want to know if rock is better than rap? Rock is clearly better. Rap is just talking over a beat.
Cosmo the Intern
um hip hop isn't rock and its more similar to jazz
DaRapBoat
I’m sure you AGREED with him, Language Simp
Cosmo the Intern
yeah no i'm not.
DaRapBoat
Modern rock actually directly copied hip hop in many ways, but rock is ACTUALLY haram
Cosmo the Intern
I'll never agree with the quran
DaRapBoat
And for the record there’s a rapper in the Quran
DaRapBoat
I’ll explain later
Heroin Monkey
Cosmo the Intern
the Quran is just a fake old testament
altSymphony
it's insane how many religious and political debates we've had on this site lmao
altSymphony
what do you think of the book of mormon
Cosmo the Intern
the Quran praises murder and rape
Heroin Monkey
whats the torrah then
DaRapBoat
Ah yes, the same AI that claimed it’s normal for cockroaches to live inside your wiener hole
Cosmo the Intern
the five books of moses
DaRapBoat
The Torah is FAKE NEWS
altSymphony
isn't it also technically called the pentateuch or is that another set
Cosmo the Intern
the Quran says that the Torah is to be taken seriously
DaRapBoat
Well they deny original sin and the trinity so they aren’t even CHRISTIANS
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
im bacl
altSymphony
EXACTLY
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
uh oh
altSymphony
Mormonism is so cultish dude you have no idea
Heroin Monkey
bro just dissed all of utah
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
why are we arguing against religion?
altSymphony
Their temples are CREEPY
Heroin Monkey
srsly
altSymphony
We're not, we're debating over the semantics of them
Heroin Monkey
thats why scientology is the best religion
DaRapBoat
Only because of OUR prophets
Cosmo the Intern
um sin was never mentioned in the Torah until the first murder
altSymphony
Theres a mormon office building in downtown salt lake
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
ohhhh
Cosmo the Intern
um no
Heroin Monkey
i personally am a pastafarian
altSymphony
You and amy should kiss
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
"The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles. Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen."
Cosmo the Intern
because its most likely that Muhammad made a Jewish rabbi write the quran
Heroin Monkey
im not gonna go to north carolina
Heroin Monkey
boring ahh state
altSymphony
lol
Heroin Monkey
whats even in north carolina
DaRapBoat
ALSO PALESTINE EXISTED WAY BEFORE ISRAEL BY A TECHNICALITY
altSymphony
Mr Beast
DaRapBoat
I’ll explain later
Cosmo the Intern
lol no
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
The Bible contrasts "pure religion" with false practices, defining true religion as a life of love for God and others, shown through compassion for the needy and a life free from worldly pollution. It identifies "false religion" as systems built on human tradition, worldly philosophy, or self-serving rules that lead people away from Christ and God. The Bible presents Jesus as the unique path to God, stating that any religion that denies Him is a false one
Heroin Monkey
thats south carolina
altSymphony
oh nvm
DaRapBoat
Jesus was just a prophet
altSymphony
El how do you feel about religion
Cosmo the Intern
you know the prayer "Hear O Israel: The Lord is our god; The Lord is one"?
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
Jesus is God in the form of the son, theres the Father, the Son and the Holy spirit
altSymphony
I think it's a fair bit deeper than that, buddy
Cosmo the Intern
God is one thing
DaRapBoat
I think they named it Israel to distract from the fact that it Is fake
Heroin Monkey
also israel commited so many war crimes in palestine like occupying the west bank, segregating everything, banning the flying of the palestinian flag, removing palestinians human rights, making random arrests, and israel moved their people onto the palestinians land, which is also against the geneva convention
Cosmo the Intern
we are all equally his children
altSymphony
Cosmo I thought you were athiest
Heroin Monkey
no hes a zionist
altSymphony
ok calm down buddy
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
well, recently i've turned to God and He has gotten me through me dark times so I am extremely grateful for Him and Christian beliefs
altSymphony
Based
Heroin Monkey
he has lirterally said that himself before
Heroin Monkey
thats not my thing
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
wdym based?
altSymphony
I mean that's cool
Heroin Monkey
most jews where i live are anti zionist
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
ohhhhh ok
altSymphony
And it's good that you're up front about what you believe in
DaRapBoat
Jesus wasn’t actually God, and Allah was the one who saved him and then he went to HEAVEN
Heroin Monkey
like the flying spagghetti monster
altSymphony
😭
Cosmo the Intern
there was no "Palestine" till the Romans decided to rename Judea, Shumria, and Israel because they thought of the Jews as scorn so the named it Suria Philistina because of some European tribe that was destroyed
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
Jesus is a part of God, not the whole, but a third
Cosmo the Intern
no way I am
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
He still is God
Cosmo the Intern
"Allah" was named after a local polytheistic God bud
Cosmo the Intern
God is one
altSymphony
huh? 😭
DaRapBoat
Bro, manority of Israelis aren’t descendants of Canaanites but Lebanese, Palestinians, Syrians and Jordanians literally ARE
Cosmo the Intern
bleh. I meant that I am monotheistic
Cosmo the Intern
the canaanites were fully eradicated.
altSymphony
Ah ok ok ok
Heroin Monkey
like the flying spaghetti monster
DaRapBoat
IT ACTUALLY SAYS GAZA IS OLDER THAN ISRAEL IN YOUR OWN BOOK LMAO!
Cosmo the Intern
and saying that the palestinians came from canaanites or the philistines is false
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
God IS one, and God has many forms, as shown in the Holy Trinity. He is the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit
Cosmo the Intern
Aza was a town that was destroyed
Heroin Monkey
if the flying spaghetti monster isnt real then why is dna shaped like pasta
altSymphony
I think God is of a nature so divine it's incomprehensible to humans
DaRapBoat
“There was none of the Anakims left in the land of the children of Israel: only in Gaza, in Gath, and in Ashdod, there remained"
altSymphony
Like the Trinity, we can't even begin to understand how that works
DaRapBoat
That’s from YO book
altSymphony
The Father, Son, and Spirit are all one divine entity beyond human understanding
Cosmo the Intern
That was in the book of kings
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
Ephesians 3:20 ("Now to him who is able to do immeasurably more than all we ask or imagine, according to his power that is at work within us").
DaRapBoat
ISRAEL ALSO STOLE JERUSALAM
DaRapBoat
Not mention THE oldest continuously inhabited city in the world is also Palestinian
helo
El if the trinity is true then how did God exalt Jesus to the highest place in Philippians 2:9? They should be the same thing. Deuteronomy 6:4 "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one" this says that the Lord is one, not many, just one
Cosmo the Intern
Stole? It was promised to us by God.
Cosmo the Intern
um no.
Cosmo the Intern
the "Palestinian people" is a modern invention
Heroin Monkey
all religions act like their god is more powerful than the god of any other religion
Heroin Monkey
i find it kind of funny
Cosmo the Intern
so what?
altSymphony
that's essentially what the basis of monotheism is
DaRapBoat
3000 years doesn’t sound very “modern” to ME
altSymphony
OH MY GOSH
Heroin Monkey
well israel didnt really like the oslo accords so they tried to abolish the palestinian state
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
Like I said the Lord is one with many forms, His power is so unexplainable that He can be whatever He wants and whoever He wants whenever he wants. The Holy Trinity is proof of what I said. He is anything and everything.
altSymphony
ARE YOU ON THIS AGAIN
altSymphony
MAL ALREADY PROVED YOU WRONG LMAO
Heroin Monkey
also the israeli education system tries to teach that arabs and palestinians are morally inferior to jews
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
Jake are u religious?
Heroin Monkey
thats why israelis feel so comfortable commiting war crimes against them
helo
The bible says the god gave his only begotten son... That doesnt make any sense if he is his own son
altSymphony
I think the problem here is people are treating the religion and ethnicity as one
Cosmo the Intern
exactly. And worship of a physical figure to me is idolatry.
altSymphony
All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God, that includes even his chosen people, the Israelites
Heroin Monkey
most of the jews in israel are ethincally jewish
Heroin Monkey
i think
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
In Christianity, God Himself is understood through the doctrine of the Trinity, which posits one God existing as three eternal, co-equal "persons": God the Father, God the Son (Jesus Christ), and God the Holy Spirit. God is one in essence, but three in person, with each person being fully divine. While God the Son (Jesus) is distinct from God the Father in person and relationship, He is also fully God, not a lesser or created being, and serves as the unique link between humanity and the divine.
altSymphony
No that's not my point
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
are u religious???
altSymphony
I'm saying the actions of the Jewish people in Gaza, regardless of how it's perceived by any person, does not reflect the beliefs of Judaism
altSymphony
Murder is objectively wrong
altSymphony
But people tend to criticize the religion alongside the people
Heroin Monkey
im not saying the beliefs of judaism
altSymphony
And that's just a blatant fallacy
Heroin Monkey
im saying the beliefs of the israeli government
altSymphony
I'm just pointing it out
Heroin Monkey
and education system
altSymphony
Yes I'm a Christian
Cosmo the Intern
that is very false. you know that nearly half of Israelis are of Arab decent? And twenty percent of Israel are Arab muslims
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
"What causes quarrels and what causes fights among you? Is it not this, that your passions are at war within you? You desire and do not have, so you murder. You covet and cannot obtain, so you fight and quarrel" - James 4:1 -2
Heroin Monkey
netenyahu doesnt want the war in gaza to end because he knows if he does there will be an election that will throw him out of office
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
niceee
helo
Galations 3:20 Says that god is one.
altSymphony
boom
altSymphony
God IS one
Heroin Monkey
and thats totally why israeli soldiers record their war crimes and post it on social media
Cosmo the Intern
No. No one wants the war
altSymphony
There is God the Father (Yahweh), God the Son (Jesus), and God the Holy Spirit
Cosmo the Intern
what war crimes?
altSymphony
They are facets of one divine nature
Cosmo the Intern
If God is one than why is he three?
Heroin Monkey
there have been multiple instances of israel targeting aid trucks in gaza, bombing hospitals, and killing reporters
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
God IS one. I have already stated this. 1 Corithians 15:28 states that God may be all in all.
Heroin Monkey
israel is trying to make it impossible to get aid into gaza
altSymphony
Because He is three-in-one
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
Meaning he is everything and Himself all at once
helo
Exactly, all different things. Holy spirit comes from god to guide you down the right path. Jesus was gods son he sent to earth as ransom for adam and eves sins to save us. They are all different things. The trinity does not exist.
Cosmo the Intern
lol there is so much food in Gaza. Hamas is just terrorizing gazans to not take it.
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
He is the Head of the Trinity, He is everything and Himself all at once
Cosmo the Intern
hold on are you a Muslim?
Cosmo the Intern
or Jewish?
helo
TY cosmo, people dont understand
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
Ephesians 4:31-32
"Get rid of all bitterness, rage and anger, brawling and slander, along with every form of malice. Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each other, just as in Christ God forgave you."
helo
No
Cosmo the Intern
than what are you?
Cosmo the Intern
i'm just curious
helo
Yes
altSymphony
The God who raises the dead to life, who created the heavens and the earth, whose grace surpasses all understanding can most definitely be of a nature we humans cannot comprehend
Cosmo the Intern
bruchim ha'baim
altSymphony
Such as simultaneously being three separate entities all as one being
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
^^^^^ remember this everyone <3
altSymphony
"God" is not necessarily a name, it is a title for the shared nature of divinity between the Father, Son, and Spirit.
Cosmo the Intern
in Christianity yes
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
God is the title of the all superior Lord
Heroin Monkey
no israel has been denying aid trucks from going through the border, bombing ports, and cutting supplies to gaza
altSymphony
"Lord" as it is used in the Old Testament by Jews was a title
Heroin Monkey
not everything is hamas bro
Cosmo the Intern
lol look up Cam Higby on youtube
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
Lord is also used commonly in the bible to refer to God.
altSymphony
"Adonai," "Elohim," "El Shaddai," etc.
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All examples of this
Cosmo the Intern
correct
Cosmo the Intern
Elohim means god
altSymphony
Yes
altSymphony
But not specifically Yahweh
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
Psalm 28:7: "The LORD is my strength and my shield; my heart trusts in him, and he helps me. My heart leaps for joy, and with my song I praise him".
Cosmo the Intern
No. him specifically.
altSymphony
No, NOT him specifically
altSymphony
The very first line of Genesis demonstrates this, saying god (elohim) created the heavens and the earth
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God - The entire entity
Cosmo the Intern
Because in Judaism we cannot say His name explicitly, when reading the Torah or prayers we usually substitute His name with "Adonai". Our lord
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
God - (in Christianity and other monotheistic religions) the creator and ruler of the universe and source of all moral authority; the supreme being.
altSymphony
John 1:1 states "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God"
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It's the same belief
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All one, but three entities
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I'm well familiar with that
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
Notice, cosmo and anyone else who said that God is only Christian, how it clearly states "and other monastic religions"
helo
This is talking about the bible
altSymphony
"Adonai" refers to God (the whole entity) as the master over all things
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I'm making a parallel
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God is a word that refers to a diving being one may believe in
Cosmo the Intern
"He is our Lord, God of our Fathers"
altSymphony
Adonai, Elohim, El Shaddai, etc. are other ways to refer to that
altSymphony
Where's that taken from? Out of curiosity
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
God means the creator and all powerful, benevolent being who is capable of anything and everything.
Heroin Monkey
if man was made in gods image does that mean god just looks lilke a mannequin, like he cant be a man or woman or have a specific race
altSymphony
Not necessarily
Heroin Monkey
bc in most depictions god is a white man
altSymphony
Yeah human depictions
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
Key bible quotes on God making man come from the first two chapters of Genesis. Genesis 1:26-27 states God said, "Let us make man in our image," and then created humankind in His image, male and female. Genesis 2:7 describes God forming man from the dust of the earth and breathing life into his nostrils, making him a living being.
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
"Then God said, 'Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over all the beasts of the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.'"
Cosmo the Intern
No. It was neither a man nor a woman. It was in the image of god himself
Heroin Monkey
how do we know god isnt a horshoe crab and humans are just being selfish by saying that god looks like a human
altSymphony
Humanity being made in God's image is representative of the fact that we were designed to reflect God's character and love
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We were given authority over His creation just as He has authority over us
Heroin Monkey
and thats why we get people like hitler and pol pot right
altSymphony
And humanity, the sinners we are, still fell short of that
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
Nobody said God looks like a human, God does not have a specific look, He is everything and anything
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^this is why we get people like Hitler
Heroin Monkey
ok then god is a horshoe crab
Cosmo the Intern
Sin does not define humanity
altSymphony
Humanity rebelled against God and thus we are sinful by nature
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
God is not a specific thing, He is God.
Heroin Monkey
then why doesnt he just eradicate us and start over with perfect humas
Heroin Monkey
humans
altSymphony
Because He is loving
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And desires a relationship with us
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
Romans 6:23 “For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.” Reflection: Free will entails accountability for our actions. Sin leads to death, but through Christ Jesus, we are offered a choice: to accept the gift of eternal life.
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A REAL one, not fabricated perfection
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And He DID start over with the flood
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Leaving only a few to repopulate the earth
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Humans, who were still sinners
Heroin Monkey
or maybe if he exists for infinite time, the amount of time that humas existed is only a miniscule chapter in gods existence
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
He gave humanity a chance and trusted one human that was a loyal man, Noah.
altSymphony
It essentially is
Heroin Monkey
and he doesnt care about us very much
altSymphony
God is outside of time
Heroin Monkey
maybe god also rules over aliens
Cosmo the Intern
One of my favorite Israeli songs goes "And he protects me, yes, but he leaves the choice in my hands"
altSymphony
He does, it's undeniable
Cosmo the Intern
there are people that make evil choices
altSymphony
That's deep
Cosmo the Intern
and there are people who make good choices
Heroin Monkey
like netenyahu
Heroin Monkey
like netenyahu
Heroin Monkey
like netenyahu
Heroin Monkey
mb guys
Cosmo the Intern
no
Cosmo the Intern
like khameini
Cosmo the Intern
and Nasrallah
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
"No temptation has overtaken you except what is common to mankind. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can endure it."
Heroin Monkey
the amount of deaths in gaza since october 6th due to israeli soldiers is much higher than the amount of deaths in israel due to palestinians since october 6th
Cosmo the Intern
not everything from the bible should be taken directly. The bible is meant to be discussed
altSymphony
This is true, there's a lot that goes into interpreting and translating the Bible
altSymphony
But generally it's true
Cosmo the Intern
However the overlying cause of death is Islamic extremism
altSymphony
The Lord wouldn't tempt us and intentionally lead us astray
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We also have to put in the effort to make things right
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Hence our free will
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
I agree with that, your song reminded me of that quote and how people have been given God's trust and forgiveness and they choose what to do with it.
Heroin Monkey
sure. and its not the bombing, cutting off of supplies, relentless murder, and conquest of gaza.
altSymphony
We have been given the free gift of salvation, but it's a gift we must accept with open arms and open hearts
Heroin Monkey
idk i feel like were living in a simulation
helo
Some people blame god if something bad happens to you, why would you blame him? He wouldnt try to make ur life horrible.
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
God has given us His mercy and His benevolence
altSymphony
Exactly
altSymphony
People suffer for a reason
helo
wdym
altSymphony
To learn, to demonstrate, to build resiliency and character
Heroin Monkey
i feel like the saying "everying happens for a reason" is kind of wrong
Heroin Monkey
in a religious sense
Heroin Monkey
not in a scientific sense
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
I believe that life is a test, a journey to heaven or hell, whatever obstacles you get are what God believes you can power through and overcome to become the best version of yourself and reach Heaven and peace.
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"I consider that our present sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory that will be revealed in us. For the creation waits in eager expectation for the children of God to be revealed. For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the freedom and glory of the children of God."
Romans 8:18
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8:18-21
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*
Cosmo the Intern
However everything happens from a cause.
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Life's our trial period to make things right and form a relationship with the God who gave us life in the first place
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And thus must also produce an effect
Cosmo the Intern
While I do believe in science, not everything is science.
altSymphony
I believe in dinosaurs cause they're AWESOME
Heroin Monkey
the only reason humans any anything exists in the first place is because there was slightly more matter than antimatter at the start of the universe
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
He gives us free will, benevolence and salvation and we, as humans, as Christians choose what we do with it
Heroin Monkey
they also scientifically exist
altSymphony
From a scientific perspective
Heroin Monkey
and probably had feathers
altSymphony
Agreed
Cosmo the Intern
He gave us the choice and the choice is now in our hands
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
ED is living proof
altSymphony
Also why was the matter and antimatter there in the first place?
altSymphony
Bingo
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
^^^^
Cosmo the Intern
We do not know yet. that's the kind of question that makes me hard
altSymphony
what
United Kingdom UK
Hallo
Cosmo the Intern
lmao
altSymphony
😭
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
heyyyyyyy
United Kingdom UK
Hi
United Kingdom UK
Hru
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
good hbu
altSymphony
The way I see it, it's entirely impossible to explain creation from a scientific perspective
Heroin Monkey
idc if you believe in god before the big bang, but everything after that can be explained using science
altSymphony
Because at the beginning there had to be SOMETHING that caused it all to happen
helo
Do you believe in hell? Many people do, I don't.
Psalm 145:20: "The LORD preserveth all them that love him: but all the wicked will he destroy"
Meaning: God will annihilate, or permanently destroy, the wicked. He will not keep them alive in hell in order to torment them because he is a loving god.
United Kingdom UK
Ehh bored
United Kingdom UK
Bro wtf is this
Cosmo the Intern
Can science explain why I jack off to astronomy magazines?
altSymphony
The belief that a DIVINE creator intentionally designed the intricate universe we reside in is far more plausible than "it just sorta happened"
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
I believe that God created Earth but potentially he also created the Big Bang that made earth. He, God has always been there and always will until the end of time
Heroin Monkey
yeah after you broke up with luiz you were damaged
altSymphony
Annihilationism is a slippery slope my friend
Cosmo the Intern
neither do I. The world to come is the world we are on
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
just debating about religion <3
Cosmo the Intern
um no.
United Kingdom UK
Damn
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
are u religious?
altSymphony
It's deep
helo
But in a better form
Cosmo the Intern
Science is not an answer. it is a way of understanding things
altSymphony
REAL
United Kingdom UK
Not really
Cosmo the Intern
So is religion
Heroin Monkey
there is also a law in QFT that says particles can randomly pop in and out of existence for a couple of microseconds
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
thats ok king
United Kingdom UK
Ty
Cosmo the Intern
yep.
Heroin Monkey
quantum fluxuations
altSymphony
but where did the particles come from
Cosmo the Intern
virtual particles are fun
altSymphony
what makes them pop in and out
Cosmo the Intern
spacetime itself
Heroin Monkey
energy in the quantum fields
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
so... wyd
altSymphony
where's the energy come from
United Kingdom UK
Just finished homework
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
niceee
Cosmo the Intern
The answer as we know it is "Yes"
United Kingdom UK
Now im just sitting
United Kingdom UK
Wbu
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
lol
Heroin Monkey
all particles are therotically just temporary fluctiations in quantum fields
altSymphony
theoretically
Heroin Monkey
so energy can be transferred across fields
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
idk just chilling im probs gonna have a shower soon idk
United Kingdom UK
Ok
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
yh
Cosmo the Intern
And energy can be borrowed from nothing to make something and then converted back into nothing
Heroin Monkey
i mean the fact that you believe in god is just an electrical signal in your brain
helo
Acts 2:31: “He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell.”—King James Version.
Meaning: Jesus Christ went to hell (the Grave) when he died.
Heroin Monkey
like all memories are
Cosmo the Intern
Is it really?
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
wdym by that
Cosmo the Intern
There may be more than just electrical signals
altSymphony
The KJV is outdated and relies on faulty manuscripts
Heroin Monkey
so you could have just been created 2 seconds ago with arrifical memories
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
wait uk ik its random but what time do u wake up to get ready for skl
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
ohh
altSymphony
Also it is commonly theorized and believed that Christ descended into the realm of hell to proclaim his victory over sin, not necessarily in a boastful sense but more like "yeah you're cooked"
helo
Yeah i dont use it but I thought u guys used it so i used it
Heroin Monkey
memories are the combination of new neural connections with electrical signals in the brain
Cosmo the Intern
lol last thursdayism
Heroin Monkey
and chemical signals
Cosmo the Intern
Not really. There's much more to how memories are stored and created
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
I know its random but what time do u wake up to get ready for skl
Heroin Monkey
and there are instances where people hit their head and get a much different personality and intelligence
United Kingdom UK
7:00
Heroin Monkey
which kind of means that not everything in your brain is permenant or absoloute
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
nice lol
altSymphony
that lamp sure looks weird
United Kingdom UK
Am
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
yh
Heroin Monkey
you mean 19:00
Heroin Monkey
you british
altSymphony
07:00
Heroin Monkey
yeah a lot of people in europe use military time
United Kingdom UK
Bro
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
no he means am coz we talking bout what tim he wakes up for skl
altSymphony
that's why I put the extra 0
Heroin Monkey
yeah but its also almost 7:00 in the uk anyways
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
i get up at 6:30am even tho my skl is 5 min walk away 💔
altSymphony
oh yeah true
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
it lit is now
United Kingdom UK
Damn
Heroin Monkey
mhm
Heroin Monkey
496
Heroin Monkey
497
Heroin Monkey
498
Heroin Monkey
499
altSymphony
Well this was a super cool chat, I loved hearing about everyone's different takes on things, and that it stayed mostly civil!
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
yup i might start getting up later tho coz i only get up so early coz I used to take ages getting up
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
lol fr
Heroin Monkey
bro u stole the 500th comment from me
altSymphony
500th gottem
United Kingdom UK
Damn, mostly?
altSymphony
my apologies 😔
altSymphony
Nobody was like fighting
altSymphony
Things got slightly tense but I think it was a very healthy debate
Heroin Monkey
i should go
altSymphony
Same haha I gotta shower
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
wait do yall have any song suggestions for me
Heroin Monkey
i needa eat lunch
altSymphony
I have PLENTY
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
ok ok ok
Heroin Monkey
YES
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
ok ok gimme hehe
altSymphony
4 Big Guys by DigBar
Heroin Monkey
listen to the album In the aeroplane over the sea by neutral milk hotel
helo
Im goin to bed, I have to wake up in 4 hours... GN WJE!
altSymphony
(JK)
Heroin Monkey
actually best album ever
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
goodnightttttt
altSymphony
El did you listen to the Emery song I told you about
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
okayy
Heroin Monkey
also listen to the album give up by the postal service
Heroin Monkey
and illinois by sufjan stevens
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
yeha and i was tryna tell you it was good but you never came bacl
altSymphony
oops
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
lol
altSymphony
Glad you liked it though!
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You should listen tooooooo
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Say it ain't so by weezer
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
okayyy
Heroin Monkey
ok wait
altSymphony
Or undone (the sweater song)
Heroin Monkey
slide away by oasis
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
imma go but ill make sure i listen to all those
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
bye yall
altSymphony
bet bet
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see ya!
Heroin Monkey
wierd fishes by radiohead
Heroin Monkey
bye
altSymphony
I never liked that one lmao
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or wait
Heroin Monkey
well ur wrong
altSymphony
no it's a different one from in rainbods
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*rainbows
United Kingdom UK
L take
Heroin Monkey
which one
Heroin Monkey
didnt you like
altSymphony
I think faust arp or whatever it's called
Heroin Monkey
nude is also good
Heroin Monkey
by radiohead guys
altSymphony
Yeah it was Faust Arp
Cosmo the Intern
Jake, do you like black eyed peas?
altSymphony
I've heard of them
altSymphony
Not entirely my style but I've enjoyed some of their songs
Heroin Monkey
rock dat body
Heroin Monkey
come on come on rock dat body
Heroin Monkey
i gonna hop off
altSymphony
gonna go get my ablutions on, peace
United Kingdom UK
Goodbye everyone who is leaving
Cosmo the Intern
youtu.be/-2EZbz22iNg?t=34
Cosmo the Intern
it's a song they mad
Cosmo the Intern
e
Cosmo the Intern
it's interesting
United Kingdom UK
Cosmo the Intern
lol
United Kingdom UK
Fr
Cosmo the Intern
rip
United Kingdom UK
Rip
United Kingdom UK
Leaving bye
Elsaaaaaaaaaaa
heloooooooooooo